Time Travel Fictions Part 2 - Writer's Fight

This continues on the transmission of my report on time travel fiction in your time my friends..

As I said qntm.org had defined a large typology to describe every potential time travel fiction - meaning really the fictions they were familiar with from their time - and then had used this typology to do analysis of many famous time travel narratives they were familiar with.

The did a good job, generally, and I would recommend that literary historians read these essays to understand the ways that people thought about time and the ways that they were wrong because this is coming from a top level analytical mind who also writes time travel fictions of their own!

But one of their essays made someone mad, this was an essay they wrote about the movie "About Time".

You see qntm.org absolutely hated this movie! But there was someone else who wrote in the same continuum as qntm.org that evidently liked the movie quite a lot as they had also written a review of it

This was written by a semi-anonymous writer, or a pair of semi-anonymous writers, in the same way I suppose as qntm [https://img.wattpad.com/47f68ad64055ac50aabeb3a4eb7a284f582c60f9/68747470733a2f2f73332e616d617a6f6e6177732e636f6d2f776174747061642d6d656469612d736572766963652f53746f7279496d6167652f69577272697056384d54543254673d3d2d313439393634333031322e313830643033333430393061353463613539393633323938383335392e706e67?s=fit&w=1280&h=1280]

This was written by a semi-anonymous writer, or a pair of semi-anonymous writers, in the same way I suppose as qntm.org is semi-anonymous. These writers are given the identifiers Agent 77 and Agent 19, which is because they were members of some sort of collective of visual artists, writers and musicians named Illuminati Ganga, although some descriptions I have read regarding their membership also mention assassins, criminals, and people who make living balloon animals - which was probably a very niche occupation back when they were a going concern - I've never actually read about it before them, so maybe they are just something that a few billionaire's pay outrageous prices to own ( a billionaire is a person who commands a significant portion of the world's resources in the time under discussion)

So when these guys found that qntm.org was dissing their favorite time travel movie they wrote back a really mean response!

I haven't been able to watch all of the movie, because of the energy expenditures involved in getting the information from the time of my destination back to our time, but I have packaged a fragment that describes the movie which in the time of my... [https://img.wattpad.com/65b8269a0cb9cc3e7797dccc24694b04b6f84088/68747470733a2f2f73332e616d617a6f6e6177732e636f6d2f776174747061642d6d656469612d736572766963652f53746f7279496d6167652f6e3168564c714b755073594f4d673d3d2d313439393634333031322e313830643035306237653336613839333439303530353335363434372e706e67?s=fit&w=1280&h=1280]

I haven't been able to watch all of the movie, because of the energy expenditures involved in getting the information from the time of my destination back to our time, but I have packaged a fragment that describes the movie which in the time of my destination is called a "Trailer", why I'm not sure as a trailer is generally something that follows a primary vehicle to carry a lot of excess baggage.

From what I have been able to make out though is that Illuminati Ganga's criticisms are mainly correct, Qntm.org really didn't seem to pay too much attention to the movie, causing them to miss or misinterpret several relevant plot points. Although Illuminati Ganga probably didn't need to be that mean, but probably when you care about something you get mean in its defense, and probably also when you care about something you really pay attention to the plot points, which is why qntm.org missed some, because they didn't care - because About Time is really the kind of time travel that qntm.org would hate and not care about - because About Time is magic based time travel, whereas qntm.org strongly prefers science based time travel.

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This is funny because neither qntm.org or Illuminati Ganga seems to realize that there is this overarching typology that separates the types of time travel stories (although maybe Illuminati Ganga realizes this as they don't seem to care as much about identifying the forms of time travel stories).

But at any rate qntm.org really likes his time travel to be science based.

Illuminati Ganga described scientific time travel movies like this in their first article on About Time:

Most time travel movies are about time, and about the in-universe rules the movie has made for how to tamper with time, how to make it work to your advantage, how to play little tricks with time and how to figure out the little tricks the movie is playing with time. Most time travel movies are tricky little puzzles that you need to sit there with a pen and paper to keep track of the various ways the movie is rearranging its narrative as it goes.

This is because most scientific time travel narratvies are concerned with essential aspects of time and time travel that they could logically infer would happen but did not have the math and theories to explain why it would and should work and thus, with an interest of science, these narratives are drawn to investigate what to them is inexplicable. The true scientific impulse.

Thus in the narratives that qntm.org prefers people often explain why "paradoxes" cannot happen, or try to take advantage of "paradoxes", a paradox is a literary trope that means that something cannot logically happen given the predicates of its happening, for example a common paradox one encounters in these works is the object created flex nihilo ( flex out of nothing) or what Cantelwitz often referred to as the "necessaries of time", those things that are created as side effects of the reality maintaining function of the 4 dimensional bounds constraining reality.

Time travel narrative with a scientific bent often do this, a future you comes back in time to give you the time machine and then you come back in time to give it to yourself at the end of your time travel adventures - where did the time travel machine come from? Nobody built it. The scientific minded had a big issue with the necessaries of time.

The narratives that are assuming a magical process allows the time travel do not spend as much effort in considering paradoxes, probably because magic is considered as providing a framework that exists at a higher level of power over reality than time, in the science qntm.org was familiar with time was the greatest power over reality, even if we can use a machine of some sort to travel through time the physics of time still determine reality and as such anything that seemed to violate it would call all sorts of logic into question, but in a magical narrative we implicitly put magic as a power greater than time, if something seems logically suspect the magic will fix it.

That said even though many narratives seem to be scientific in nature they only make some light nods towards science, and the various methods used to travel through time do not at all seem to match common scientific and engineering solutions to problems.

One of the most famous time travel narratives then was a serialized video show that involved an alien, who looked human, and traveled through all space and time in a box that looked like a special type of communications box that in fact was no longer familiar to anyone likely to watch the show, and which box was bigger on the inside than the outside because of having an idea they called a pocket dimension inside of it.

There was at no point any sort of regard to what the energy needs would be of such a mode of travel.

In fact, Illuminati Ganga also has their own time travel stories that I have not spent much effort on reading, as they seem to be primarily about a guy who wants to beat up somebody named Giddy Hayes because Giddy owes him a very small amount of money, and comes close to destroying reality at least every other weekend or so. But the method of time travel is a bathtub! Which definitely strikes me as being somewhere in the magic base for time travel category of stories.

In reality, it was not until Cantlewitz and Scherarcj that the world had a solid enough mathematical and physics basis to start producing realistic time travel fictions about 2 decades before the actual establishment of the first instance of the Momentarium.

Long after qntm.org was dead and Illuminati Ganga had disbanded, as far as I can determine from my research of their organization.

Until when I remain Noiruzi Sangsung!

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