Preface
So… I wanted to make another PWP PHO interlude and got sucked into making it. Somewhere along the line, I forgot that SAINT was a secret and wondered how he'd reveal himself. This doesn't line up well with the conversations Bryce and Amy had, and those are genuinely too important to go back and edit, so this is getting stuffed into an omake.
Enjoy the free laughs.
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Topic: Creed and His Catalog
In: Boards ► United States ► New England ► Brockton Bay
Brilliger (Original Poster) (Moderator: Protectorate Main)
Posted On Oct 18th 2010:
Hey, guys. I know Creed's a popular topic of conversation right now, but in order to prevent clutter, I'm making this the official Creed thread. Any other threads will be deleted unless we mods feel it serves a specific purpose, or I suppose if Creed decides to do another AMA.
For those curious, Creed recently appeared with a hell of a bang, levying an ultimatum on the Empire, Merchants, AND Protectorate [here]. He then made [this] PHO post advertising his gear, both for [civilians] and [heroes].
Since he didn't see fit to consolidate his catalogs into a singular thread, this is it. Talk about his wares, how you can reach him, reviews of any purchases, etc.
As usual, keep it civil. Additional rule for the thread: If you review something from his catalog, we expect photo verification of your purchase. A photo of your username on a slip of paper with the object in question will suffice.
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►Brocktonite03 (Veteran Member)
Replied On Oct 18th 2010:
FIRST! And for new tinker content!
Hey, isn't it illegal to sell tinkertech though?
►Procto the Unfortunate Tinker (Not a tinker)
Replied On Oct 18th 2010:
Actually, no... though admittedly IANAL and it's a very fuzzy line. It's illegal to sell "dangerous" tech but the definition is understandably murky. As I understand it, there isn't an official law against the selling of tinkertech, though tinkertech can fall under a lot of different regulations, such as ones for hazardous chemicals for example. If selling tinkertech or tinker-derived-tech was blanketly illegal, Dragon wouldn't have a company either.
Not that I expect Creed to care. I mean, come on, he's a self-professed villain.
►Brocktonite03 (Veteran Member)
Replied On Oct 18th 2010:
Fair point. I'm just surprised that the mods are allowing a thread like this.
►Brilliger (Original Poster) (Moderator: Protectorate Main)
Replied On Oct 18th 2010:
It was a subject of some debate. As Procto said, it's not illegal. Creed's put us in a bit of a spot because by selling his best tech only to heroes, he's established a bit of legitimacy for himself.
The way we see it, he's going to be flooded in requests whether we crack down on it or not. The best thing we can do is to contain the tide to this one thread.
►Brocktonite03 (Veteran Member)
Replied On Oct 18th 2010:
Ah, gotcha. So, anyone actually have something made by him?
►Narco_Gecko
Replied On Oct 18th 2010:
*Waves hands frantically*
I do! I have an expanded bag! It's like a bag of holding from Dungeons and Dragons. Or a videogame inventory. It's bigger on the inside and I can hold so much random crap here.
Edit: Mod-mandated photo [here].
►White Fairy (Veteran Member)
Replied On Oct 18th 2010:
Huh. That was fast. I'm guessing you're an old customer before Creed made the catalogs? How much does it hold? And does it come in different colors? What'd it cost you?
►Brilliger (Original Poster) (Moderator: Protectorate Main)
Replied On Oct 18th 2010:
Gecko, photo or video proof please.
►Narco_Gecko
Replied On Oct 18th 2010:
Yes, oh, mighty one. And it holds a few hundred pounds. How much was it... Ehh, I forgot? Or was I told in the first place? I dunno, my boss gave it to me.
►XxVoid_CowboyxX (Temp-Banned)
Replied On Oct 18th 2010:
Gecko's definitely a cape. Guys, look what I [made].
►Brocktonite03 (Veteran Member)
Replied On Oct 18th 2010:
*sighs* Risky click of the day...
Edit: Safe, guys. That's just Creed screaming "GIGA IMPACT" turned into a meme.
►Narco_Gecko
Replied On Oct 18th 2010:
Me? A cape? nah. I'm a gecko, not clothing.
►White Fairy (Veteran Member)
Replied On Oct 18th 2010:
Neat. Off topic as usual, but not as bad as a typical Void-special I guess. Why is it imposed over a banhammer? Why would the mods use that?
►XxVoid_CowboyxX (Temp-Banned)
Replied On Oct 18th 2010:
Because it's funny.
Say, anyone who can see the heroic catalog wanna buy something for me? I can't see what's on it.
Mod Edit: Don't blatantly try to commit fraud on the internet, you idiot.
►Brilliger (Original Poster) (Moderator: Protectorate Main)
Replied On Oct 18th 2010:
[Banned].
Huh... I like it. Thanks. Enjoy your ban.
►Brocktonite03 (Veteran Member)
Replied On Oct 18th 2010:
lmao that happened. This has to be a new record.
►White Fairy (Veteran Member)
Replied On Oct 18th 2010:
Oh the irony…
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Topic: The GOAT might live up to the name...
In: Boards ► United States ► New England ► Brockton Bay
Bagrat (Original Poster) (Veteran Member) (The Guy in the Know)
Posted On Nov 8th 2010:
Hey guys, Bagrat here with another spicy new take fresh off the PRT grapevine. Get ready for this because this one's got some hefty implications
So, a bit of background: Tinkers aren't sci-fi mad scientists, no matter how many of them go for the aesthetic. They aren't good at EVERYTHING; most of them have a very narrow specialization that they need to stick to, or else. Usually, this specialization is something a tinker finds out in a month or two of their trigger. The broader the specialization, the more versatile, and powerful, a tinker can be.
It's part of why Armsmaster's specialization, efficiency or miniaturization (not sure which it is), is so great. It's what makes him such a brilliant tinker and why he's got the right tool for every job in that halberd of his.
Now, see Kid Win. KW didn't know his specialization, at least until yesterday when he had a eureka moment while messing about with some LEGOs.
If that sounds familiar to you, bravo. And maybe go out and get some sun sometime because you're tuned way too deep into PHO. Then again, who am I to talk?
For the rest of you, Creed made a post last month [here], in which he says several seemingly offhand comments. In it, he offers Kid Win, or "Minnie-V," a box of LEGOs. A lot of us thought he was making a dig at a rival tinker but yesterday, people caught [this] video of him literally giving KW a box before bolting.
The GOAT apparently stands for The Greatest of All Time and they honestly might live up to the name.
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►Procto the Unfortunate Tinker (Not a tinker)
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
Umm, can someone please tell me why this is important? Like, yay for KW, right?
►Reave (Verified PRT Agent)
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
We really need to have that chat, Bagrat. Seriously, who are you?
►Answer Key (Duck Whisperer)
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
Probably a PRT analyst. Or their spouse or something. And to answer your question, Procto, it's important because this would make it the very first time a thinker has successfully predicted a tinker's specialization, at least where it wasn't immediately obvious. It implies a lot of things about The GOAT's power and might explain why Creed is willing to restrain himself to a heroic catalog in exchange for their assistance, whatever that might be.
Honestly? What's scary about The GOAT is that we have no idea if they're a man or woman, or even anywhere in the city. We have Creed's word and the heroic catalog that implies they're a hero, but virtually nothing else. For all we know, they could be an organization like WEDGDG.
►Procto the Unfortunate Tinker (Not a tinker)
This story originates from a different website. Ensure the author gets the support they deserve by reading it there.
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
I mean, yeah, I get that, but why does it matter?
The GOAT did a huge favor for KW, right? Gave him his specialization? So it's one more thing that proves they're a hero? I'm not seeing any reason for me to be worried.
►Brocktonite03 (Veteran Member)
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
You're not a Brockton native, are you?
►Procto the Unfortunate Tinker (Not a tinker)
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
No? How could you tell?
►Brocktonite03 (Veteran Member)
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
You don't have our in-built paranoia.
►White Fairy (Veteran Member)
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
Yup. It's kind of refreshing. You do you, Procto, but the rest of us feel a little nervous about having such a powerful thinker with unknown designs on the city.
I mean, I'm like 90% sure Creed is from Brockton, too young not to be, but he had to have received material support form The GOAT or whatever organization they're part of to rise up this fast. And you don't invest this much in a tinker unless you have plans here.
►Brocktonite03 (Veteran Member)
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
Exactly. I'm hoping for the best, but I wouldn't be surprised if the whole "mysterious heroic thinker" schtick is just a way to soften us up for a territory grab.
►Answer Key (Duck Whisperer)
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
Oof, sad part is that I can see that being the case. Question is though, why? Why Brockton? And why go out of your way to strengthen a rival? Knowing your specialization isn't just a small thing. Depending on what it is, it can be game-changing.
Bagrat, do we know what it is?
►Brocktonite03 (Veteran Member)
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
Maybe they felt the spec wasn't important.
►Bagrat (Original Poster) (Veteran Member) (The Guy in the Know)
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
Hooh, we do know. KW's specialization is modularity, or modular systems, which in hindsight makes the LEGOs seem a little on the nose.
It's... It's a VERY versatile specialization. At least as good as Armsmaster's. If The GOAT is a villain, it'd be the kind of information they'd have taken to the grave. I'm tentatively on Procto's side based on the magnitude of that info drop. I think The GOAT is genuinely heroic, or at least can be considered benevolent.
►Procto the Unfortunate Tinker (Not a tinker)
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
Hah! Guy in the know says I'm right.
►Bagrat (Original Poster) (Veteran Member) (The Guy in the Know)
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
Tentative. My vote is tentative. We still know too little about them. Hell, we don't even know what their organization is called.
►The_GOAT (The Guy in the Know) (Verified Cape)
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
I can answer that.
►Brocktonite03 (Veteran Member)
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
Holy shit!
►Bagrat (Original Poster) (Veteran Member) (The Guy in the Know)
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
Welcome... I think…
►White Fairy (Veteran Member)
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
So, what are you guys called? How many of you are there? What do you want for this city?
►The_GOAT (The Guy in the Know) (Verified Cape)
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
We are here to prepare for trouble!
►Creed_Official (Verified Cape)
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
And make it double!
►The_GOAT (The Guy in the Know) (Verified Cape)
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
To protect the world from devastation!
►Creed_Official (Verified Cape)
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
To unite all peoples within our nation!
►The_GOAT (The Guy in the Know) (Verified Cape)
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
To denounce the evils of truth and love!
►Creed_Official (Verified Cape)
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
To extend our reach to the stars above!
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►The_GOAT (The Guy in the Know) (Verified Cape)
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
The GOAT!
►Creed_Official (Verified Cape)
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
Creed!
►The_GOAT (The Guy in the Know) (Verified Cape)
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
Copyright infringement blast off at the speed of light!
►Creed_Official (Verified Cape)
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
Surrender now, or prepare to fight!
►Malware_SAINT (Mallard Supreme) (Verified Cape)
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
Pory-That's right!
►AllSeeingEye
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
Fuck, there's more of you... I was so hoping there were just the two. I mean, didn't get my hopes up, but a gal's gotta dream.
►Malware_SAINT (Mallard Supreme) (Verified Cape)
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
Mallards have pneumatic, corkscrew-shaped penises that inflate in less than a second.
►White Fairy (Veteran Member)
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
What?
►Answer Key (Duck Whisperer)
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
I believe he's saying he's going to screw AllSeeingEye, lol.
►AllSeeingEye
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
Oh, fuck off.
►Brilliger (Moderator: Protectorate Main)
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
Infraction. Both of you. Language.
Edit: Why can't I give you infractions?
►Creed_Official (Verified Cape)
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
Hahahahahahahahahahaha!
►Malware_SAINT (Mallard Supreme) (Verified Cape)
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
Mallards secrete a special oil from the uropygial gland located at the base of their tail, which is then coated onto their feathers to make them waterproof.
►Answer Key (Duck Whisperer)
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
Ooh! I think he means he's repelling your mod-authority?
►Brocktonite03 (Veteran Member)
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
Malware_SAINT, are you going to keep speaking in duck-facts?
►Malware_SAINT (Mallard Supreme) (Verified Cape)
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
There are over 167 species of mallards in the world.
►Aloha
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
Heh, guess that's a yes.
Just got caught up on this special brand of nonsense. You guys still haven't told us what you're called though.
►The_GOAT (The Guy in the Know) (Verified Cape)
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
We are the official Panpan Fan Club, of which I am president and chairman.
►Creed_Official (Verified Cape)
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
I am the executive director of the Brockton chapter, which, as you might guess, is the most important one.
►Malware_SAINT (Mallard Supreme) (Verified Cape)
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
Mallards are found on every continent except for Antarctica.
►Aloha
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
Umm... Translation please?
►Answer Key (Duck Whisperer)
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
I think he means that they're a widespread organization…
►Creed_Official (Verified Cape)
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
Congratulations, I name you Duck Whisperer. Mallard! Make it so!
►Malware_SAINT (Mallard Supreme) (Verified Cape)
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
Ducks make for excellent and agreeable companions, unlike swans, who are pompous, self-righteous assholes.
►Answer Key (Duck Whisperer)
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
Kek. I have the title. And he retroactively applied it too. Guys? I think Malware_SAINT might be another tinker.
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►Bagrat (Original Poster) (Veteran Member) (The Guy in the Know)
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
Yeah, that seems like a fair guess.
►Creed_Official (Verified Cape)
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
Who? Him? No, he's the Mallard Supreme. We've established this.
►Brilliger (Moderator: Protectorate Main)
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
*sighs* I'm going to go edit the tags in. Can I please have the controls back?
►Malware_SAINT (Mallard Supreme) (Verified Cape)
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
Ducks assert dominance by pecking at others but are capable of sharing large swathes of territory when prey is abundant.
►Answer Key (Duck Whisperer)
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
That means yes.
►Brilliger (Moderator: Protectorate Main)
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
Yeah, I got that. Fine, I can take a hint. I won't change the tags.
►Chaosfaith
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
Heh, that's hilarious. Can I join the Panpan Fan Club?
►Glitzglam (Verified Cape) (New Wave)
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
Hahahahaha, Panacea_Official! You're popular!
►Panacea_Official (Verified Cape) (New Wave)
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
WHAT THE FUCK?!
►Brocktonite03 (Veteran Member)
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
Guys? I'm getting the sneaking suspicion that this fan club isn't officially sanctioned.
►Panacea_Official (Verified Cape) (New Wave)
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
No fucking shit! Creed_Official, I'm going to kill you!
►Creed_Official (Verified Cape)
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
Oh noes... I'm too sexy to die. Can I offer you a custom-made set of ATs in exchange for my life?
►Glitzglam (Verified Cape) (New Wave)
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
lol, take it, Amy. You may as well get a sick ride out of this.
►Panacea_Official (Verified Cape) (New Wave)
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
No!
►The_GOAT (The Guy in the Know) (Verified Cape)
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
Oh very well. Unfortunately, the Panpan Fan Club hereby disbands.
But fear not! For in its ashes rises a new organization: The Warfare Against Rabid Deities Syndicate!
►White Fairy (Veteran Member)
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
lol The WARDS? I think the PRT might have some concerns.
►Reave (Verified PRT Agent)
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
We do indeed have concerns, White Fairy.
►Bagrat (Original Poster) (Veteran Member) (The Guy in the Know)
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
I don't think we're going to get a straight answer, guys.
►Answer Key (Duck Whisperer)
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
No, really? You don't say?
►Brocktonite03 (Veteran Member)
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
Welp. It's going to get confusing as hell, but until we have a proper name for you guys, I'm okay with WARDS. Heh, just realized Creed is officially a Ward now, lol.
►Reave (Verified PRT Agent)
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
No. This is not okay. Why are you like this? The_GOAT?
►The_GOAT (The Guy in the Know) (Verified Cape)
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
Because I am the Greatest Of All Time.
I am unassuming, like the humble goat. I am ever-climbing, like the brave goat. I am true to myself, like the resolute goat. As the one who dons the mantle of The GOAT, I must exemplify all the virtues embodied in this, most sacred and noble of all animals.
►AllSeeingEye
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
*slow claps*
Bravo. I didn't think anyone could troll an entire city this well. So, how 'bout a consultation?
►Malware_SAINT (Mallard Supreme) (Verified Cape)
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
The red-breasted merganser is the fastest duck ever recorded at over 100 miles per hour.
►Answer Key (Duck Whisperer)
Replied On Nov 8th 2010:
lol I think that means they're out. Hahahaha, sorry, AllSeeingEye.
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Author's Note
Ehh, I got nothing. Just skip to facts. Everyone likes learning, right?
Random fact of the day: Dr. Curt Richter conducted a study on rats in the 1950s titled "On the Phenomenon of Sudden Death in Animals and Man." He took a few dozen rats, some wild and some domesticated, and put them in a jar to record how long they lasted before drowning. Surprisingly, domesticated rats did better while wild rats, after fighting for a short while, simply gave up.
He defined this trait in domesticated rats as hope. The domesticated rats had the familiarity with human masters to expect salvation, and so some swam for days.
To prove this point further, he briefly rescued and held the rats in his hands before they were about to drown, then set them in the water again. That brief interlude to their suffering made a huge difference in the length of their survival.
Moral of the story? Sometimes, we all just need a reason to keep our heads above water... Or you know, don't be a dick to rats.
Thank you for reading. To reach a wider audience, and because I enjoy a more forum-like setup to facilitate discussion, I like to crosspost to a wide variety of websites. You can find me on FFnet, Royal Road, Space Battles, Sufficient Velocity, and Questionable Questing.